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Scooter Carver

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  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Ok, now it's time to get real! I found my 11.94v pin on the connector on this panel by plugging it into the unit. I used the DMM and found where it showed 11.94, then removed the panel and traced it back to the connector. So here's picture number 1. T...  moreOk, now it's time to get real! I found my 11.94v pin on the connector on this panel by plugging it into the unit. I used the DMM and found where it showed 11.94, then removed the panel and traced it back to the connector. So here's picture number 1. This shows point 1 on the front side which has two holes through the panel from the connector. Then it goes to point 2 which you can see on the picture, which also has two holes through the panel transferring it back to the rear side. This is 11.94 between both of these points. Again, this is the front side of the connector showing. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05521-1.jpg[/IMG] Now we go to the rear side, picking up on point 2 which was 11.94v. This goes into two different components, which I have to believe are reducers or resistors or something like that. We'll start with the furthest one, cause for whatever reason I numbered that one #3. That component has a number on it of 3...    less
    • February 17
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Got out the ol DMM, and put the black probe in the cage to ground it, then started checking the connector for readings. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05519.jpg[/IMG] Should've g...  moreGot out the ol DMM, and put the black probe in the cage to ground it, then started checking the connector for readings. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05519.jpg[/IMG] Should've gotten a picture of the connector straight on, but I didn't sorry. There are still 16 connections, 8 top and 8 bottom. Starting at the top left, these were my readings: Top 1 - 7.40 2 - 0.00 3 - 0.00 4 - 0.00 5 - 0.00 6 - 4.92 7 - 11.94 (MY POWER SOURCE) 8 - 0.00 (I can only guess this would be the ground source, but not sure.) Bottom 9 - 0.00 10 - 0.00 11 - 0.00 12 - 0.00 13 - 0.00 14 - 4.72 15 - 4.70 16 - 0.00 So that was straight out of the unit, out of the connector at the bottom of the unit, you can see it in the lower middle of the unit in the picture above. Next I decided to remove the plate from the front piece, and connect that. Immediately this is what I saw. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Rei...    less
    • February 17
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Ok here we go. I'll try and get through this as best as I can. Hopefully everyone can follow along ok. I'm trying to make this as easy as I can to follow along. So I just went through testing the resistance on the cables, the gepco and some cat 5 ...  moreOk here we go. I'll try and get through this as best as I can. Hopefully everyone can follow along ok. I'm trying to make this as easy as I can to follow along. So I just went through testing the resistance on the cables, the gepco and some cat 5 I had laying around. Next I told you I was going to try and test the pinouts on the inside connector to see if I could find some voltage and find out if I had a 12v pin in there or if it was already reduced down to 9v, which I was lead to believe the face plate is when it runs. So I started first to take the unit apart. I'll go through those pics again, and get to the good stuff. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05509.jpg[/IMG] Top off, and you cannot see anything from this view, because the cd mechanism basically takes up the entire unit area. You cannot get to the board from the bottom because the bottom, sides and back of the cage are all one piece. The top is the only removab...    less
    • February 17
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Just got out with the DMM, man am I in need of a new one! But I tested the resistance on the lines. First the gepco 22ga wire that I currently have soldered on. It's a little hard to see in the pic, but I have it set to 200. Don't know if this is righ...  moreJust got out with the DMM, man am I in need of a new one! But I tested the resistance on the lines. First the gepco 22ga wire that I currently have soldered on. It's a little hard to see in the pic, but I have it set to 200. Don't know if this is right or not, but if not I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me on it, Please! But, as I said, a little hard to see in the pic, but it came to a .06. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05505.jpg[/IMG] Next I took some Cat5 wire at the same distance and tested it at the same 200 setting. I was surprised at a .07 result. By what everyone has said, I was expecting something different I guess. Not that I know what I"m doing anyway. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05507.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05506.jpg[/IMG] This is what I was...    less
    • February 17
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Sorry guys, things have been on hold. I've been battling a pretty bad flu bug for the last few days. Fever has been at about 102 for 3 days now, till today! I finally woke up without a fever today. So things are looking up! Anyway, I'm going to try a...  moreSorry guys, things have been on hold. I've been battling a pretty bad flu bug for the last few days. Fever has been at about 102 for 3 days now, till today! I finally woke up without a fever today. So things are looking up! Anyway, I'm going to try and get some stuff figured out and test the resistance differences between the gepco cable and some cat 5 cable. Then I'm going to test the unit to find out what pins are the power and ground pins and do an isolated power on the faceplate. We'll see what happens. It's either going to work, or I'll have to buy a new faceplate. Either way, I should know by the end of the day. I do think, however, that the voltage on the faceplate is 9v not 12v. So I may not be able to test it today, cause I don't know how to do a voltage drop on it. But that's all I've got for now.  less
    • February 17
  • Doug Bernards
    Doug Bernards: hey scooter can you give me a link to that thread with the android tablet going to the hdmi break out box. i think it was you who posted a layout
    • February 14
    • Doug Bernards
      Scooter Carver Ill see if i can find it and post it to you.
      • February 14
    • Doug Bernards
      Scooter Carver Are you talking about this doug? [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/...  moreAre you talking about this doug? [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Galaxy%20Tablet/TabletSetUpwithOctavaModule.jpg[/IMG]  
      • February 14
    • Doug Bernards
      Doug Bernards i think your link is broke
      • February 15
    • Doug Bernards
      Scooter Carver Ok let me see if i can fix it.
      • February 15
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    So for those of you who are interested, I may have found a way to make this extension longer. I'm looking into it with someone more technically sound than I am, and I'll report back when I get some answers.
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Read it again. I didn't say they couldn't reach it, I just said it would make it easier for them to adjust the volume. 
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Yep that's next now that I know where the face plate is going. You'll start seeing pics of that very soon!
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver Dear Doug - Please don't ever show Jordan Naked again!  EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER!!!!  Damn it Jonny, for the love of all of us, get him a damn fan!!! 
    • February 13
    • Scooter Carver
      bass attic x2
      • February 13
    • Scooter Carver
      Dice Man What happened Scooter, you got a hard-on.....ouch!!!!
      • February 13
    • Scooter Carver
      Doug Bernards hahaha.
      • February 14
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver → Twostroke King: Yo!  Welcome over!  
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Power and ground hooked up, got a buzz from the unit loading up. We're powered! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05497.jpg[/IMG] AAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD! NOTHING! Damn! [IMG]http:...  morePower and ground hooked up, got a buzz from the unit loading up. We're powered! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05497.jpg[/IMG] AAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD! NOTHING! Damn! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05498.jpg[/IMG] So basically that pretty much eliminates the ability to put it in the headliner. I need at least 8 feet of cable to get it up there around the windshield. SO the headliner is out, and now it's the dash bezel under the tablet. But instead of just taking the option I HAD to make sure it was in fact going to work. It's like play golf, you have to hear the ball drop in the cup. Well here I had to see it work for myself. So I cut each one about 2' in length giving me 4' total. I figure this was plenty to work with. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05499.jpg[/IMG] Now I didn't w...    less
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Not the greatest picture but here you can see I filled in the sides of this one. The other one I wasn't able to fill in on the sides because the tabs in the center need to move in order to take on this connector. I didn't want to take the chance that it...  moreNot the greatest picture but here you can see I filled in the sides of this one. The other one I wasn't able to fill in on the sides because the tabs in the center need to move in order to take on this connector. I didn't want to take the chance that it would be glued. But this one doesn't have that issue. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05486.jpg[/IMG] Got it on the face plate back, the false one. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05487.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05488.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05489.jpg[/IMG] Now they're ready to go! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05490.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.co...    less
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Now to move a little up the wires for more support. Once again, it's not the cleanest, which if you all know me by now is driving me nuts, but like I said a bit earlier my head was killing me, and I was getting impatient with these connectors. No excuse...  moreNow to move a little up the wires for more support. Once again, it's not the cleanest, which if you all know me by now is driving me nuts, but like I said a bit earlier my head was killing me, and I was getting impatient with these connectors. No excuse to let the details get away from me I know, but it's what I'm using for this now. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05475.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05476.jpg[/IMG] Ready to put it in it's home. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05477.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05478.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05479.jpg[/IMG] What you'd see if I took the face plate off. Loo...    less
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    It's a little rough right now. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05466.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/D...  moreIt's a little rough right now. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05466.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05467.jpg[/IMG] But I can clean that up! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05468.jpg[/IMG] Now it's time to move on to the next connector. I actually found this one tougher than the first one. These tabs seemed thinner and more brittle than the other one. I decided to do the same thing with these. "L" shaped wire from the inside. Also from the bottom up. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05469.jpg[/IMG] Again a little rough and then cleaned up! BTW, I don't claim to be the best solderer in the world, I'm still learning. So if anyone thinks they can give any suggestions as to how to better my solder joints, ...    less
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Ok so last night I was able to fire up the soldering iron and get the head unit extension all finished up and working! Well, sort of! Here's how it went down! First I got everything out and started working on it, pretty much where I left off from la...  moreOk so last night I was able to fire up the soldering iron and get the head unit extension all finished up and working! Well, sort of! Here's how it went down! First I got everything out and started working on it, pretty much where I left off from last time. Recall that everything was stripped off and ready to solder on the wires. Now my original plan was to just solder from the outside in, meaning I was going to lay the wires on to the tabs and solder them on and then bend them and do the other side. After looking at them for a bit, I decided that these tabs were just not strong enough to really do that. I decided the up most care was needed in the soldering and handling of the connector tabs. So to solve that and get that result, I decided that the best thing to do, would be to bend the wires in an "L" shape and solder them that way, and then when they go on the tabs, they'll be resting on the strongest part of the tab, which is not the wing, but the body of each tab. So that's where I started. I n...    less
    • February 13
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Yes i do. Its to make vilume adjustment on their tablets easier for them. Not cause they beed an amplifier. The volume contols on the kindle fires are touch only. There isnt any buttons on the side or anything for them to push to raise and lower the v...  moreYes i do. Its to make vilume adjustment on their tablets easier for them. Not cause they beed an amplifier. The volume contols on the kindle fires are touch only. There isnt any buttons on the side or anything for them to push to raise and lower the volume. So, with those tablets going in the headrest, they need an easier way to adjust the volume rather than leaning forward in their car seats to do so. Simple enough.  
    • February 12
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    Next to strip the ends and get em ready for soldering or tinning whatever you wanna call it. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05438.jpg[/IMG] Done and ready for solder. [IMG]http://...  moreNext to strip the ends and get em ready for soldering or tinning whatever you wanna call it. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05438.jpg[/IMG] Done and ready for solder. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05439.jpg[/IMG]. That's as far as I got tonight. My eyes hurt, my head hurts, and it's time for bed. So I have to now solder the ends, solder the connectors, and then put them together. The connectors aren't very strong so this is a little intimidating. I wish I had a better solder tip, but I literally have no money in the bank right now, so i can go get one. But I think I have one that will work. I just don't want to ruin anything. I did find this out however. This is the picture from above, altered. What it's pointing at is a button. That button is pressed by the arm that goes down when the face plate opens up. I'm guessing it has something to do with th...    less
    • February 10
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05428.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05429.jpg[/IMG] Here's what's...  more[IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05428.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05429.jpg[/IMG] Here's what's in each cable. Remember there's 8 cables in the main run. So each pair per cable equals 16 little wires. There's 16 contacts on each plug. Make sense now! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05430.jpg[/IMG] So after looking at the female connector I wondered what it looked like in the unit. So I decided to take the front off and look for myself. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05431.jpg[/IMG] To my surprise this is what I found. I don't know exactly what I was expecting but I thought I'd have a ribbon cable or something in there. It's a board that has another plug on it, that plugs into a female plug that's s...    less
    • February 10
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05417.jpg[/IMG] Both of the base plates. The top one is the new piece and then you see the connector in front. After looking a bit at it, I may chan...  more[IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05417.jpg[/IMG] Both of the base plates. The top one is the new piece and then you see the connector in front. After looking a bit at it, I may change out the one on the unit cause it's a little worn. The one for the faceplate to be held on, doesn't need to do anything but hold the faceplate. The base unit one, needs to be moved if I need to put in a cd. Anyway, moving on. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05419.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05420.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05421.jpg[/IMG] Now it's time to get our color chart and wires all situated so I have a guide to go off of. No reason to mess something up by guessing right. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.c...    less
    • February 10
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    So here's where I'm at with the Alpine Face Plate Extension Project. I got the head unit out of the truck tonight and just started looking at stuff and getting some ideas on how to tackle this project. My oldest daughter was a little jealous, bl...  moreSo here's where I'm at with the Alpine Face Plate Extension Project. I got the head unit out of the truck tonight and just started looking at stuff and getting some ideas on how to tackle this project. My oldest daughter was a little jealous, bless her heart cause her sister got to be on a picture in the build. So she wanted in on one as well! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05405.jpg[/IMG] So I got everything laid out, all my pieces to this puzzle. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05406.jpg[/IMG] Put the face plate on the unit and examined the contacts a little bit. Here is the close up on them. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05407.jpg[/IMG] You can see on this one, that there is a little tab on either side of the contact connector. This is key cause the contacts really only g...    less
    • February 10
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    First things first here's a little package I got earlier this week. These are the headphone amplifiers that are going to go in the back seat somewhere. Originally it was in the center console, but I'm rethinking that one at the moment. I'll get back to...  moreFirst things first here's a little package I got earlier this week. These are the headphone amplifiers that are going to go in the back seat somewhere. Originally it was in the center console, but I'm rethinking that one at the moment. I'll get back to that. Here they are! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Headphone%20Amplifiers/DSC05440.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Headphone%20Amplifiers/DSC05441.jpg[/IMG] Front, volume knob, power button, and 3.5 mm jack. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Headphone%20Amplifiers/DSC05442.jpg[/IMG] Rear, has two sets of outputs for speakers, also a set of RCA jacks for the inputs. I'll have to make a 3.5mm to RCA cable. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Headphone%20Amplifiers/DSC05443.jpg[/IMG] Side by Side [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstal...    less
    • February 10
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum Build Logs:
    I got a package today! I have to get some pics of some of the other stuff I've gotten in the last couple days too. But we'll start with this! Looks small enough right! But boy is this thing weighty! What's in it you ask? Well lets take a look see!...  moreI got a package today! I have to get some pics of some of the other stuff I've gotten in the last couple days too. But we'll start with this! Looks small enough right! But boy is this thing weighty! What's in it you ask? Well lets take a look see! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Distribution%20and%20Fuse%20Blocks/IMG_20120210_134711.jpg[/IMG] Ooooooo purrrrdddddyyyyyyy!!!! shinnnnnnyy!!!! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Distribution%20and%20Fuse%20Blocks/IMG_20120210_134852.jpg[/IMG] Distribution and fuse block material is here! Now I need to get a couple things yet. I have a pretty steady hand and have been around tools all my life pretty much. But I think I need a drill press for this regardless. Just is a safer way to go. I'll also need to get a metal blade for my table saw. Once I've got those things, I'm good to go as far as tools go. I have the tap and die set, and I have some pretty damn good ...    less
    • February 10
  • chris spoon
    chris spoon is now friends with Scooter Carver.
    • February 10
  • Scooter Carver
    Scooter Carver replied to a topic in the forum iPad Installation:
    ok. Another question, just going over this in my head. What if you put less volts to it than 12? Like just say half, 6v? What would that do, do you think?   I'll just get a couple and experament!  Nevermind!  
    • February 8
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  • February 17, 2012 7:29:47 PM PST
    in the topic 06 Civic Performance and Audio Build - Cleaned up! in the forum Build Logs
    Ok, now it's time to get real! I found my 11.94v pin on the connector on this panel by plugging it into the unit. I used the DMM and found where it showed 11.94, then removed the panel and traced it back to the connector. So here's picture number 1. This shows point 1 on the front side which has two holes through the panel from the connector. Then it goes to point 2 which you can see on the picture, which also has two holes through the panel transferring it back to the rear side. This is 11.94 between both of these points. Again, this is the front side of the connector showing. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05521-1.jpg[/IMG] Now we go to the rear side, picking up on point 2 which was 11.94v. This goes into two different components, which I have to believe are reducers or resistors or something like that. We'll start with the furthest one, cause for whatever reason I numbered that one #3. That component has a number on it of 303. As you can see in the picture, the voltage goes from 11.94, down to 1.78v. Going back to number 4, the component there is labeled 472 on top, and the voltage drops to 3.70v. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05522-1.jpg[/IMG] Flipping it back over to the front, this is where it gets a little crowded but I did as best as I could to keep it under control. Ok looking to the left side of the panel you can see #3 coming through. This is reading 1.78v. It goes up to another component up to the upper left of the panel, near the eject button. This is where it got a little tricky. I tested the opposite side of that component and got a 0.00v reading. I was like WTF?! So I decided to move on. On the middle right side of the panel, just under the connector there, is where #4 comes through, reading at 3.70v. This goes down, up to those two leds, and then back out and around to the middle there. I called this point #5. I put the meter on it and again got 0.00v. I was at this point stumped as hell. I could not figure out how I got voltage from a positive to nothing. Now you can look at the picture and see that these two points that I got a 0.00v reading on, points 5 and 6, are labeled as 0.00 / 9.98v. There's a reason for that. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05521-1-1-1.jpg[/IMG] Here let me show you the reason! Remember this little guy? Yep that's why i got a 0.00v reading. Cause the switch was open. I pushed the switch in, and did the reading again, and got my 9.98v reading, which would be my face plate power. Here's a little drawing I just did. I for whatever reason didn't go any further into it with my testing, maybe cause I'm exhausted, I don't know. But here you can see the yellow line, coming from the switch. It goes into a component, and splits out, one going to #5, and the other to #6. Both again, reading 9.98v when the switch is depressed, again indicating the face plate is up and in the closed position. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05522-2.jpg[/IMG] The bottom line is this. From what I've gotten out of this little bit of research is that instead of making the connectors as I did on the last go round, I can eliminate those, and go this route. I'll take the panel board and the front panel that it's currently on. I'll move it from the cage to the spot where the face plate will be, hopefully once again in the headliner. Then I'll take the second one I bought, and I'll put it on the front of the cage itself. I'll make a harness that will connect the connector on the unit, and the connector on the panel where the face plate will be, and that should get me better results than the first attempt. In theory. I'm not going to be 100% surprised if this doesn't work. But this is the next attempt in this project. I just have to figure out how I'm going to go about doing it. I have two ways really. I can either solder directly on the board right by the connector, or i can solder directly onto the connector itself. The other way is to try and find these connectors, which I've already looked for at pac parts.com, and cannot find. So I'm most likely stuck with direct soldering them. I think if I decided to direct solder on the board, I'll have to take the cd mechanism out and get the board accessible. Those are pretty big tabs on that connector, but I'm not sure I want to take the chance. Here's how things change a bit by doing it this way. By moving the panel, I have to now use the face plate for other things. What do I mean? Well now the eject button is going to not work on the main unit, it will have to be pushed and operated by the panel at the face plate which will now have the board on it. To do this the face plate must be movable. That's not a problem cause it was going to be anyway. I don't however, have to have a face plate or a base or anything like that on the unit itself. Like before. Same thing goes up at the face plate. That switch on the back of the panel, will have to operate and will do so by the face plate opening and closing. The only thing I'll need at the unit, will be to insert a cd, or remove a cd. So things get a little different, maybe even a little more inconvenient, but if it works, it'll be worth it. I don't think I'll be using the cd player much anyway. So I think it'll be fine. I'm very happy about all this, so far. Hopefully I'll get to test more soon! Happy to hear any suggestions or thoughts. Thanks!
  • February 17, 2012 7:29:14 PM PST
    in the topic 06 Civic Performance and Audio Build - Cleaned up! in the forum Build Logs
    Got out the ol DMM, and put the black probe in the cage to ground it, then started checking the connector for readings. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05519.jpg[/IMG] Should've gotten a picture of the connector straight on, but I didn't sorry. There are still 16 connections, 8 top and 8 bottom. Starting at the top left, these were my readings: Top 1 - 7.40 2 - 0.00 3 - 0.00 4 - 0.00 5 - 0.00 6 - 4.92 7 - 11.94 (MY POWER SOURCE) 8 - 0.00 (I can only guess this would be the ground source, but not sure.) Bottom 9 - 0.00 10 - 0.00 11 - 0.00 12 - 0.00 13 - 0.00 14 - 4.72 15 - 4.70 16 - 0.00 So that was straight out of the unit, out of the connector at the bottom of the unit, you can see it in the lower middle of the unit in the picture above. Next I decided to remove the plate from the front piece, and connect that. Immediately this is what I saw. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05520.jpg[/IMG] Lit up like a Christmas Tree. This is what it looks like when you open the face plate to remove or insert a cd. I removed the plate and took a couple of close up pictures of it cause I knew I'd need them to write on and to do some numbers, tracking, etc. This first picture is the front of the plate, that goes into the front piece of the cage. This is the connector you see that the face plate connects to. The button you see there in the upper left hand side of the plate, that's the eject button. So the eject mechanism is triggered by this button, which sends data to the cd mechanism and tells it to eject, basically. Don't get all technical on me ok! It's over my head, I'm just trying to make it simple. I'll get back to this later. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05521.jpg[/IMG] We'll call this the rear of the plate. This is the connector that connects to the other connector that I just tested on the unit itself. This brings all that data, power, etc, onto the plate and everywhere else after that. I'll get to that. That's where stuff gets REAL!! [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05522.jpg[/IMG] Now on the bottom right had side of this plate, you can barely see a little black switch. Here's a more close up view of it. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05525.jpg[/IMG] This switch is triggered by a little arm that is pushed in when the face plate is in the up position. When it's down, that switch is opened up and the board lights up as I showed before. Here's a little frozen demonstration. You can see my fingers there, my index finger is by the switch but not on it, demonstrating the face plate being opened up or down. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05523.jpg[/IMG] Now my index finger is pushing on the switch demonstrating the switch being pushed, would then be by the arm, and the lights are off. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05524.jpg[/IMG] So after that my interest peaked and I had to dig deeper to see if I was correct truly or not. Correct about what? Correct about whether this plate on the back of the front panel was the place in which everything was changed, voltage drop etc. I'll go through it a little bit now for you. Here you can see I did some drawings on paper based on those pictures I took above, the close ups of the panel itself. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05526.jpg[/IMG] Since you can't obviously read my chicken scratch and it was just too difficult to explain from those pictures alone, I did some editing in photobucket that will be easier to explain for me, and see for you. I'll be right back!
  • February 17, 2012 7:28:31 PM PST
    in the topic 06 Civic Performance and Audio Build - Cleaned up! in the forum Build Logs
    Ok here we go. I'll try and get through this as best as I can. Hopefully everyone can follow along ok. I'm trying to make this as easy as I can to follow along. So I just went through testing the resistance on the cables, the gepco and some cat 5 I had laying around. Next I told you I was going to try and test the pinouts on the inside connector to see if I could find some voltage and find out if I had a 12v pin in there or if it was already reduced down to 9v, which I was lead to believe the face plate is when it runs. So I started first to take the unit apart. I'll go through those pics again, and get to the good stuff. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05509.jpg[/IMG] Top off, and you cannot see anything from this view, because the cd mechanism basically takes up the entire unit area. You cannot get to the board from the bottom because the bottom, sides and back of the cage are all one piece. The top is the only removable piece. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05510.jpg[/IMG] So that being said, the other way to get a decent look at the connector without gutting the unit, is to remove the front. One screw on each side, [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05511.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05512.jpg[/IMG] A little love, and this is what you get. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05513.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05514.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05515.jpg[/IMG] Now it was time to put some power to it and get some readings. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05516.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05517.jpg[/IMG]
  • February 17, 2012 9:40:11 AM PST
    in the topic 06 Civic Performance and Audio Build - Cleaned up! in the forum Build Logs
    Just got out with the DMM, man am I in need of a new one! But I tested the resistance on the lines. First the gepco 22ga wire that I currently have soldered on. It's a little hard to see in the pic, but I have it set to 200. Don't know if this is right or not, but if not I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me on it, Please! But, as I said, a little hard to see in the pic, but it came to a .06. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05505.jpg[/IMG] Next I took some Cat5 wire at the same distance and tested it at the same 200 setting. I was surprised at a .07 result. By what everyone has said, I was expecting something different I guess. Not that I know what I"m doing anyway. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05507.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05506.jpg[/IMG] This is what I was shocked by. I decided what the hell and to test the whole roll, or what I had left of it. It's about 75 feet give or take. At the same 200 setting, I got a 3.2 result. So, now I'm very confused! Not having that much of the gepco cable to use I can't compare. [IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/99scooter/1%20Reinstall%20Again/Alpine%20Customization/DSC05508.jpg[/IMG] So I'm gonna go rest for a bit, then I'll go out an see if i can identify the power and ground pins on the unit. If I can do that then I can figure out whether or not I can use an isolated power on the face plate and run data from the unit. Be back later!
  • February 17, 2012 5:03:58 AM PST
    in the topic 06 Civic Performance and Audio Build - Cleaned up! in the forum Build Logs
    Sorry guys, things have been on hold. I've been battling a pretty bad flu bug for the last few days. Fever has been at about 102 for 3 days now, till today! I finally woke up without a fever today. So things are looking up! Anyway, I'm going to try and get some stuff figured out and test the resistance differences between the gepco cable and some cat 5 cable. Then I'm going to test the unit to find out what pins are the power and ground pins and do an isolated power on the faceplate. We'll see what happens. It's either going to work, or I'll have to buy a new faceplate. Either way, I should know by the end of the day. I do think, however, that the voltage on the faceplate is 9v not 12v. So I may not be able to test it today, cause I don't know how to do a voltage drop on it. But that's all I've got for now.
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